"DUAL SURVIVAL" - Cody LUNDIN sur Discovery Channel - le 11 juin à 22h00

[Barbara]

Bientôt la saison 2 
Petit extrait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5LFGE7rGUkA
Dave Canterbury s'entaille volontairement au bras pour montrer la cautérisation à la poudre de cartouche.

(...)

[gapmo]

Hmmm...  

Bon, je pense que je ne serai pas le premier à me faire cette réflexion: même si de toute façon c'est avant tout un programme de divertissement, cet extrait "laisse en bouche" comme un méchant goût de Bear Grylls ...  

Certes, il s'agit d'une accroche pour la 2eme saison, appâter l'audimat, créer du buzz...
Puis faut voir dans quel contexte ils amènent cette "expérimentation"... Mais ça fait un peu jack-ass tout d'même...

N'ayant pas de connaissance en la matière, je ne pourrai pas me prononcer sur la réelle utilité médicale, ratio risque/efficacité de ce type "d'intervention".

En espérant que ça ne glisse pas trop vite du côté obscur de la force, ce qui pourrait dissuader certains nouveaux venus et un public plus large de découvrir les deux bouquins de Cody en dehors de ce programme (qui reste avant tout du divertissement, de plus ou moins bon goût selon où l'on se place)...

... Enfin, malgré tout, je regarderai quand même… Notamment pour voir si Dave aura toujours tous ses doigts, bras et jambes à la fin de cette  saison... Parti comme cela, rien n'est moins sûr… ... Et, s'il s'agissait en fait d'une leçon appliquée de darwinisme qui ne sera révèlée aux télé-spectateurs (et à Dave) qu'en fin de saison...  

[gapmo]

Up,

Pour patienter, en attendant les cloches en ce W-E Pascal  :

Saison 2, premier episode: Dual Survival - Slash And Burn (tout un programme ): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT4jzKiu4Fk

SLASH AND BURN
Premiere: April 22, 2011
Dave and Cody show how lost hunters can survive in the harsh conditions of Tierra Del Fuego, just 500 miles from Antarctica. To demonstrate how to survive an extreme injury, Dave self-inflicts a laceration and uses black powder to cauterize the wound. Then, the pair have to cross a frigid bog to reach the coast, facing the hazards of hypothermia and the threat of being swallowed whole by the sucking waters.

Saison 2, second episode: Dual Survival - Buried alive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IGz3ZKKtb4

BURIED ALIVE
Premiere: April 29, 2011
Armed with what's left of an avalanche victim's gear, Dave and Cody show how to survive in the Wyoming's harsh Rocky Mountains. Facing sub-zero temperatures, they make their way down a jagged ice waterfall, build a snow cave and try to salvage a dead elk carcass. Along the descent, they must work together to get through waist-deep snow and rig their parachute cord to get down to the tree line where there's a chance of making a fire.

Saison 2, troisieme  episode: Dual Survival - Stuck In The Muck :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICx_OHgPKOU
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9XBL1DkJ7g
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZycBjMK5nbk&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQPqt2U493U&feature=related

STUCK IN THE MUCK
Premiere: May 6, 2011
Dave and Cody head into the Everglades to take on the role of air boaters stuck in a sawgrass prairie marsh under the blazing Florida sun. They must seek shelter in a nearby swamp where water moccasin, python and alligators lay in wait. They soon find that even with over 4,000 square miles of cypress swamp the biggest challenge is to make enough drinking water to fend off dehydration.

Saison 2, quatrieme episode: Dual Survival - Bitten :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/user/DualSurvival3#p/u/3/6bwnReIdBnc
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/user/DualSurvival3#p/u/3/6bwnReIdBnc
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/user/DualSurvival3#p/u/3/6bwnReIdBnc
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/user/DualSurvival3#p/u/0/yKDAxSLA8o8

BITTEN
Premiere: May 13, 2011
Cody and Dave show how to survive the rugged jungle in Thailand using only the gear an ill-equipped ecotourist might carry for a day trek: a Thai jungle knife, steel wool, a sharpening stone, a damaged cell phone and a bag of tobacco. As the pair struggles through the dense jungle they must face off with killer temperatures, unexplored caves and a field of leeches.

Saison 2, cinquieme episode: Dual Survival - Frozen Plains :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wlMQXUjyFc
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF6Ikpuqur0
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhx2lfBbSvM
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfwPjujK3Y

FROZEN PLAINS
Premiere: May 20, 2011
Cody and Dave take on the scenario of two ranchers, stranded on the Northern Great Plains in Montana during the dead of winter. Their only survival supplies are the charred remains of a burned-down shack: an axe head, a bison hide, a glass jar, a metal tin and a steel striker.

Saison 2, sixieme episode: Dual Survival – Out of Africa :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tNKKKanuEQ&feature=related
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5rtIw4BUNs&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70862xCPzhE&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgkkzAecJG8&feature=related

OUT OF AFRICA
Premiere: May 24, 2011
Cody and Dave take on a survival scenario in South Africa's backcountry where dehydration kills in hours and hungry super-predators kill even faster. Armed with nothing but a machete, they show how to escape the bush without getting eaten alive.

Saison 2, septieme episode: Dual Survival – Out of the clouds :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuwntqSGwKk
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5rtIw4BUNs&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arfomObpLfY
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p4eufINPj0

OUT OF THE CLOUDS
Premiere: May 27, 2011
Dave and Cody take on the role of biologists lost in the wet cloud forests of Panama 7,000 feet above sea level with only a poncho, specimen jar and a broken lighter to aid in their quest for civilization.

Saison 2, huitieme episode: Dual Survival – Adrift :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej40poPhIZY
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjOCOfElq6Y&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFs5knp7B0E&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRlS4vVG14s&feature=related

ADRIFT
Premiere: June 3, 2011
Our intrepid duo take on the survival scenario of two castaways adrift at sea and show how to survive being stranded on a deserted jungle island in the South Pacific. This time, even Dave goes barefoot. 

Saison 2, neuvieme episode: Dual Survival – Eating dust :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re79o52m2ek
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX523mstQOg
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C51hUG6Fyo8
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcEoycb8LEk

EATING DUST
Premiere: June 10, 2011
From the barren salt flats to the vast desert woodland, Dave and Cody battle the elements in the sun scorched desert of Baja, Mexico. With few supplies, they each demonstrate how to make use of an unlikely resource - urine.

Saison 2, dixieme episode: Dual Survival  - Hippo Island :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcYTuGYUfwg&feature=related
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyzL8VbYqk8&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhuyiVhNHsA&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra-_vVtK8GQ&feature=related

HIPPO ISLAND
Premiere: June 17, 2011
In Botswana's Okavango Delta, Cody and Dave -- equipped only with a dying GPS and waterlogged binoculars -- seek to escape the dangerously territorial and deadly hippos that rule the marshland.

Saison 2, onzieme episode: Dual Survival - Up the river :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3LMEVHak-4&feature=related
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awd8nVTlfaA&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo7l06Pve0E&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmOFLQkooAQ&feature=related

UP THE RIVER
Premiere: June 24, 2011
In densely wooded Appalachian highlands, Cody and Dave take on the role of two kayakers who are dumped into a frigid river just before sundown. And to make matters worse, they're separated from each other by two miles of raging river.

Saison 2, douzieme episode: Dual Survival – Road to nowhere :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6owvkOfTh7A
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC6PWqgc32o
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5JX61nxwQk
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mReShSbfEuw

ROAD TO NOWHERE
Premiere: July 1, 2011
In the isolated woods of Northern Maine, Cody and Dave take on the role of two travelers, lost and out of gas on an abandoned logging road. Their only resource is a broken down truck which they pillage for all it's worth including a can of dog food.

[Kilbith]

Bonsoir,

Personnellement je trouve que ces vidéos (je ne les ai pas toutes regardées seulement "frozen plains") sont des "shows". Mais ce n'est pas pour autant que c'est inintéressant. A la différence d'autres émissions on trouve de bons conseils et l'accent n'est pas mis sur la prise de risque débile dans une situation où l'on est fragilisé.

Mais après, évidemment, c'est assez improbable : Dans "Frozen plains", cody trouve une peau de bison, il marche en chaussette et short au coeur de l'hiver du montana/wyoming, son compagnon trouve un briquet et peu de temps après "la pierre qui va bien"...etc. Paradoxalement on insiste sur le repas de quelques mulots et on ne passe pas beaucoup de temps sur le récipient en verre permettant de fondre la neige.

Saison 2, cinquieme episode: Dual Survival - Frozen Plains :
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wlMQXUjyFc
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF6Ikpuqur0
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhx2lfBbSvM
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfwPjujK3Y

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FROZEN PLAINS
Premiere: May 20, 2011
Cody and Dave take on the scenario of two ranchers, stranded on the Northern Great Plains in Montana during the dead of winter. Their only survival supplies are the charred remains of a burned-down shack: an axe head, a bison hide, a glass jar, a metal tin and a steel striker.

Show time quand même...mais sympa 

Par exemple : j'aime bien le passage ou les deux acteurs observent longuement les pentes pour trouver le passage le moins dangereux pour atteindre la rivière. Dans d'autres productions concurrente le type arrive et fonce "schuss keke" en se servant très très peu de notre seul point fort : le cerveau. C'est suicidaire.

[Patrick]

La plupart des vidéos, émissions, démonstrations sont des shows pour attirer vers les stages ou/et satisfaire les égos ainsi que des produits marketing qui nous donnent non pas ce dont on a besoin mais ce dont on a envie.

Bien sur il y a quelques personnes qui publient des supports où ils mettent leur savoir et leur tripes, Serge nous communiquent ainsi quelques pépites parfois d'antan.

Mais la survie, nature ou urbaine sont des marchés et la concurrence est rude.

[Patrick]

Bienvenue dans le capitalisme   

Il me semble mais je peux me tromper que toute personne faisant métier d'une activité essaiera de la promouvoir et c'était vrai bien avant qu'on eu démontré le capitalisme.

Le tout étant de ne pas confondre son intérêt et mon intérêt et voir s'il est possible de les faire se rejoindre sur tout ou partie de la prestation proposée. La concurrence étant parfois aussi un facteur de progrès.

[Patrick]

http://www.davidmanise.com/forum/index.php/topic,49117.msg402801.html#msg402801

[gapmo]

Salut, 

Une petite mise a jour pour les "fans" de Cody et amateurs de ce programme "divertico-educatif".

La diffusion de la saison 3 commencera sur Discovery Channel aux USA le mardi 1er janvier 2013 et sera l'occasion de decouvrir le nouveau binome de Cody: Joseph TETI (au CV militaire bien garni semble-t-il).

DUAL SURVIVAL: UNBRAIDED
 Premieres Tuesday, January 1, 2013 at 8PM E/P

 This one-hour special kicks off the new season of DUAL SURVIVAL with never-before-seen footage of outdoor survival skills instructor Cody Lundin and introduces viewers to his brand new partner, special operations veteran Joseph Teti. DUAL SURVIVAL: UNBRAIDED also gives fans a sneak peek of the third season as the duo is thrust into survival scenarios ranging from lost hikers on the side of a jungle volcano in Nicaragua to downed paraglider pilots on a 17,000-foot peak in Chile’s Atacama Desert. Viewers also get an up close and personal look at Cody’s off-the-grid passive solar earth home in the remote Arizona desert and join Joe on the firing range as he hones his skills with his combat tested M-4 rifle and Glock 9mm pistol. This special provides an intimate look at the new team as they struggle against Mother Nature and, oftentimes, each other.


DUAL SURVIVAL
 “Mars on Earth”
 Premieres Tuesday, January 1, 2013 at 9PM E/P

 Chile’s Atacama desert is the driest place on Earth, and it’s landscape is so barren and unique that NASA uses it as a testing ground for it’s Martian rovers. It is here that Cody Lundin and Joe Teti are put to the ultimate desert survival test. In this scenario, they take on the plight of a downed paraglider pilot who has crash landed on a mountain peak over 14,000 feet above sea level. Facing acute altitude sickness, and with limited water and resources, they must strip the paraglider for all it’s worth and head out in search of civilization and re-hydration.


(...) Joseph Teti's training is extremely diverse and formidable. He has the rare distinction of having served in three special operations units. He is a former Force Recon Marine, Army Special Forces “Green Beret” and a former operative in one of the most top-secret government counter- terrorist units in the world. He attended several survival schools in his career, is an expert in unconventional warfare and is part of only one percent of all Special Forces operators who is both HALO and SCUBA qualified. Teti has held a TOP SECRET-SCI with polygraph security clearance, the highest security clearance awarded by the U.S. government.

(Source: http://www.codylundin.com/wordpress/dual-survival-press-release/)


... Edit le 4/12:

M. TETI semble aimer faire les choses comme il faut et, pour satisfaire a la curiosite des spectateurs, a mis ligne un site web pour l'evenement: http://josephteti.com/
(... Il y parle notamment de sa collaboration avec TOPS pour son couteau de survie: "SURV TAC 7")



... Edit le 2/01/2013:

DUAL SURVIVAL, season 3: UNBRAIDED  > video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saPl-7_B0rk

DUAL SURVIVAL, season 3: Mars on Earth > video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_PXC4y9qw

[h]

pour ceux qui ont Discovery channel ...  "Seul au Monde" dans le style Les Stroud .


http://www.discoverychannel.fr/ed-stafford/episodes

[Kam]

Petit déterrage de sujet, suite à une discussion dans un autre sujet. Un long article sur les séries "survivor" et la compétition entre elles qui fait que l'on arrive souvent au contraire du but recherché (il faut toujours plus de spectacle, donc on pousse à prendre des risques, ce qui est l'inverse de ce que l'on devrait montrer quand on parle de situation de survie).

C'est ici (en anglais): http://www.tvguide.com/news/survival-tv-special-report-1088519.aspx

Il a été écrit suite à l'éviction de Lundin de Dual Survival, donc on parle pas mal du show.

In Lundin's opinion, this attitude infects nearly all survival TV. Many people presented as experts simply aren't, and it's difficult, he admits, for the average viewer to know the difference. No organization bestows the title "survival instructor" on qualified individuals. But those who are credible should have extensive experience and the proper mind-set. "Any real survival instructor is a risk mitigator," he says. "Whenever you see a survival show that enhances or creates risk, you're dealing with either a phony, a fraud, or someone who's sold out for money and fame."

Rien de nouveau sous le soleil, quoi, mais ça remet les choses à plat et montre aussi parfois l'envers du décors.